Curse

Yang Whirlwind · Aug 08, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by SPURLUXE

where is a monster update?
it's just a skill update...

"Monster update" slang for "Huge Update"

Has nothing to do with the monsters (though the skill changed should affect them too)

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF URSAN NERF

In other words, my faith has been restored in ANet, and I do believe I'll be playing again. Good job ANet, good job.

Lol Arky - haven't seen you this excited since you thought someone had cookies in their pants!

- I feel the same way though! Great update!

Nittle Grasper · Aug 08, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

So no more signet of disenchant in UW?

Aera Lure · Aug 08, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Its so very late, and I dont think they nerfed it enough, but at least Ursan as the only way to play the game with a human group might fade a little.

la_cabra_de_vida · Aug 08, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Probably worst update in a while, fighting power creep with power creep.

Bryant Again · Aug 08, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

But the point still stands the game is funner for more ppl than just the few whinny slags.

Your point is that providing more modes of gameplay will be "fun for more people" while at the cost of having the game remain meaningful. It's why a puzzle mode for GW never existed, or an Adventure no-action mode wasn't implemented for God of War, or why Valve didn't allow for HL2 to be played in a turn-based strategy grid. The more "gameplay modes" you provide the worse the game becomes, unless you can honestly prove to me how making Guild Wars playthroughable as a racer would be a good idea (hint: you won't).

The only thing these skills are providing is an easier time through hard mode, which is pointless since you can see the exact same everything through normal mode sans the challenge, and if you didn't want the challenge then you'd just be playing in normal mode. Hence, pointlessness.

You will not be able to prove how these skills make the game "better" because you'll have a hard time defending cheat codes.

And likewise, as it looks, you'll also be having a hard time stating how UB was "buffed".

Arkantos · Aug 08, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Lol Arky - haven't seen you this excited since you thought someone had cookies down their pants! - I feel the same way though! Great update!

Well, let's see. ANet ignored the majority and nerfed the most imbalanced thing that ever happened to PvE, and updated a shit load of unused skills. I'm perfectly happy with this ANet, and I believe they did a great job (wow, haven't said that in ages).

la_cabra_de_vida · Aug 08, 2008, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Well, let's see. ANet ignored the majority and nerfed the most imbalanced thing that ever happened to PvE, and updated a shit load of unused skills. I'm perfectly happy with this ANet, and I believe they did a great job (wow, haven't said that in ages).

No, izzy once again tried to fight power creep (ursan) with more power creep (today's update). This theory of his has failed since nf.

Yang Whirlwind · Aug 08, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I'm perfectly happy with this ANet, and I believe they did a great job (wow, haven't said that in ages).

I know,- feels good to say that again!

fenix · Aug 08, 2008, 03:01 AM // 03:01

After reading a few times, nice update. Except for SF...because it's still farmable in UW Q_Q

around · Aug 08, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

Things I'm concerned about:

Way of the Master (wtf, this is screaming to be abused with /D or /P secondary)
Master of Magic (seriously wtf)
Quivering Blade (5a dazed?)

Things I'm concerned about but for a different reason:

Melandru's Shot (fine on 5s recharge, I'm not waiting 10s between cripples)
Extend Conditions (elite Epidemic? nothnx)

Things that are just lol:

Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support

Things ANet did a good job on:

GvG
Ursan

IlikeGW · Aug 08, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

Its so very late, and I dont think they nerfed it enough, but at least Ursan as the only way to play the game with a human group might fade a little.

Every high level area has always been build-based, something will replace Ursan and you'll be required to conform to get a group. It's just the bland nature of the game.

Arkantos · Aug 08, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by la_cabra_de_vida

No, izzy once again tried to fight power creep (ursan) with more power creep (today's update). This theory of his has failed since nf.

Nothing is as imbalanced as ursan was, and ursan is nerfed. In the end, he did was people wanted him to do - nerf ursan. Sure, it's not perfect, but at least it's something.

Shakti · Aug 08, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Well, let's see. ANet ignored the majority and nerfed the most imbalanced thing that ever happened to PvE, and updated a shit load of unused skills. I'm perfectly happy with this ANet, and I believe they did a great job (wow, haven't said that in ages).

Seconded

All I could say reading the update was WOO FREAKIN' HOOO!

Wow....does this make me a fangirl again? Nah, still stuff to bitch about

Overall though, quite happy.

RIP Ursanway....you will most pleasurably NOT be missed

FoxBat · Aug 08, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by MarlinBackna

RIP Communing

The communing skills they moved were garbage. Nothing's changed.

HawkofStorms · Aug 08, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04

Okay, some math for everybody going "ebon sniper support is amazing."

It really isn't.
90 damage every 15 seconds plus 10% chance of +900 is the same (through repeated uses) as 90 damage every second plus +90 damage 100% of the time. In short term situations, you might get several +900 hits in a row that do really well. But over the long term DPS of say, a dungeon run, 180 damage (that doesn't ignore armor) every 15 seconds isn't that big of a deal. In comparison, the old Ursan was 150 damage every 4 seconds.
It really isn't THAT powerful enough to be worth echoing if you think about it long enough.

shoyon456 · Aug 08, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

This update fracking shafted dervs, we got 3 elite "buffs" and they were more of sorry piss- #%% excuses for making it look like anet gives a care.

I'm emailing my complaint, along with my formal denounciation of any other game they produce. Goodbye.

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 08, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Didn't notice Ursan Strike also got nerfed - part of it's packet damage is slashing damage now. That's nice to know >=p

Yang Whirlwind · Aug 08, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

Every high level area has always been build-based, something will replace Ursan and you'll be required to conform to get a group. It's just the bland nature of the game.

1. At least you will have to use 8 skills again.
2. At least you will play a role on the team that corresponds with the profession you have chosen to play.
3. Anything that allows for more than 3 monks and 5 UB's are better in my book.

Arkantos · Aug 08, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

This update fracking shafted dervs, we got 3 elite "buffs" and they were more of sorry piss- #%% excuses for making it look like anet gives a care.

I'm emailing my complaint, along with my formal denounciation of any other game they produce. Goodbye.

So because dervishes, an already very strong class, got 3 buffs, you're mad?

mrmango · Aug 08, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

So because dervishes, an already very strong class, got 3 buffs, you're mad?

You're my hero of the day. Btw pix of cookies down pants please.